me: i still have a feeling oooo oooooooo that were gonna end up with mcnabb on draft day
by draft day*
Eric: haha no way jack!
me: don't see us going into this year with wallace and quinn and a rookie
i like wallace as a backup
solid starting experience
Eric: i dont see getting mcnabb
too costly
me: maybe holmgren thinks higher of him
11:33 AM did the same thing taking hasselbeck to sea from gb
Eric: i can see us w quinn wallace and ratliff
me: well that will be fun winning 4 again
Eric: yea but that cost him a 6!!!! hasselbeck was not a multi probowler
me: id rather start wallace then
Eric: we'll see maybe he does
me: Quinn blows
11:34 AM haha
me: if we keep qbs as is id rather start wallace
i dont see us being finished though
Eric: i dont know ill be fine with whoever
11:35 AM me: i wont be fine with quinn
Eric: not ideally but we're not going to mortgage the draft to get a starter for next year
me: hes a joke
Eric: im fine with quinn
me: no
he cant play
Eric: if holmgren thinks quinn is alright then im cool w it
me: he doesnt
Eric: he hasnt thrown a ball yet
me: hes watched his tape
11:36 AM youre dellusional
youve seen his throws
Eric: he watched tape of dabolls **** head offense
me: hes innaccurate, doesnt spin the ball well
Eric: ive seen him make some good throws, ive seen wr drop the ball and ive seen him make some bad ones
me: doesnt matter
youre high
look at his numbers
Eric: right
in a BAD offense with terrible handed WRs
me: only thing brady does a DECENT job of is limiting turnovers
11:37 AM look how many he threw behind too
dont be a fan and be realistic
Eric: yea there were some misses, but im saying if holmgren starts the season with quinn, you have to think hes comfortable with it
me: you really think he can win us a game?
Eric: so then i will be too. he knows alot more than me
me: ok ill go out on a limb then and say its only march and quinn will not be starting
11:38 AM Eric: i dont know if he'll go out and win us games, but if no one can for less than a 2nd rd pick thats fine
me: ok but holmgren does not like what he sees in quinn
Eric: if the options are quinn or giving up our 1 or 2 i want quinn for another year
me: why else would we be looking at mcnabb?
Eric: HE WILL DEMAND A F***ING 1!!!!!!!
me: id give up a conditional pick next year for mcnabb
Eric: a 1!!!!
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
me: i wouldnt give a 1 and you know that we wont give it up
11:39 AM Eric: right so that means NO mcnabb
me: its negotiations
theyre not gonna be like well do it for a 3
Eric: which means no clear cut starter, which means quinn is starting which means hes a better option than wallace
which means we look for a qb next year
me: wallace would beat out quinn right now
Eric: u think reid gives up mcnabb for anything less than a 2?
11:40 AM me: quinn couldnt beat out DA DA DA
Eric: hehe
i think we just need to trust in MH
me: id be comfortable giving a conditional 3 or 2 that can move up to a 1 based on production/wins in 2011
Eric: no!
me: i know you keep saying that
but youve read as i have that HE DOESNT LIKE QUINN
Eric: i will not give up a 1 for a qb that can only play a few more years
if we give up a 1 i want a good qb a franchise qb for 10 years
11:41 AM me: ok well id do it for a 2 this year
Eric: he never said he didnt like him, he said hes looking for a better qb
nope
a 2 this year is a 1 any other year
me: alright well agree to disagree
11:42 AM final points: 1. wallace is better than quinn, brady sucks
Eric: haha, im not going to say wallace is better than quinn, thats my point, if quinn is starting i wont go yelling that wallace should be
thats my point
11:43 AM bc whoever is starting, mh thinks hes the best chance and i trust him
me: 2. without QB were going nowhere, and i agree that we dont want to throw away the future for an aging QB, and my point is thats why we havent made a deal yet, bc MH does kno what hes doing and is talking eggles down
11:44 AM Eric: the eagles will NOT take a 3 for mcnabb. if its more than that, im out
which is why a deal will NOT be done and mcnabb will NOT be a brown
me: haha
i still think something will happen
11:45 AM hes old
he cant command a high pick compensation
Eric: hes the eagles best chance to win!
me: plus hes got injury history
Eric: yes i know! haha which is why i wont give a 2
me: they were 2-0 with corn on the kolb last year
Eric: we were 10-6 with DA
11:46 AM me: would you give both 3's?
teams completely different
it was a fluke
Eric: id give a 3 and rogers
me: ok now were talking
Eric: literally maxed out there
me: listen to this deal
11:47 AM
me: they could use DQ
Eric: i dont want to give up dq
me: id give up DQ for a deal involving mcnabb
youre high
haha
whats so good about DQ
Eric: ud give up dq, rogers and a 3?
11:48 AM me: no
i said maybe swap out rogers
maybe dq a 3 and a 5
Eric: and bring back some of those ice cubes
me: we have 4 5s
haha
they have to start at a 1
Eric: yea id do dq and a 3 and a 5
me: thats not gonna happen
id rather give up our 1 for b marshall than D Mac
Eric: ur high, they really will not trade him for less than a 1
11:49 AM me: ok ive never said id give our 1 for him
Eric: i dont give up our 1 for almost anyone
unless its a player who is a probowler and under 25
if nothing else we must commit at least 1 terrorist act!
me: haha
11:50 AM what about this... rogers and swapping 1sts
11:51 AM Eric: where are they?
me: like 20
range
maybe 22
Eric: eh
on draft day id do it if certain people were off the board
id do it at their pick if someone i like alot is still on the board
like graham or spoon
me: maybe ill call MTC today and talk to tim and pat
11:52 AM i think theyre pretty firm it will take a 1 to get mcnabb though
Eric: yea u should, yesterday they were talking about mcnabb and starting with a 1 offer
me: yeah
Eric: they think it takes at least a 1 to get him
me: but if we throw players in there
Eric: but if berry is there at 7 not a chance i trade it
me: maybe?
Eric: eh, u should call
11:53 AM me: one of the funniest faces is al rokers on seinfeld "INTERESTING!"
Eric: hahahaha
yup
11:54 AM me: i like our approach though
11:55 AM starting qb aside i like the addition of wallace
pretty risk free acquisition
at worst much better #2 than weve had
11:59 AM Eric: yea
and someone who knows the system
12:00 PM hes ken dorsey but can play
me: ok so youre gonna say you trust in MH, if he gives up our 2 for mcnabb, youre out on him?
12:01 PM Eric: i just think its too much
considering the type of player we can get at 2
me: look at kurt warner and brett farve
they played til 40s
Eric: uh huh
me: no reason d macs gonna only play 3 years
12:02 PM Eric: i dont see mcnabb being as good as late
me: i think it could be a steal
Eric: for a 2?
i dont know
12:03 PM me: http://www.nfl.com/players/donovanmcnabb/careerstats?id=MCN017517
stop undervaluing this guy
he can play
hes big time
BIG TYMEEEEEE!
slappa da baise
12:04 PM Eric: haha, im not saying he cant play but i think the player we could get at 2 is better long term, for building a team, id take spikes over mcnabb
there are some GREAT qbs in next years draft
me: i agree but draft is a crap shoot
you draft potential
dmac is proven
12:05 PM Eric: right but potential of a young player weights heavy against the injury potential of a proven old man
me: no way
youre so wrong!
hahahha
12:06 PM Eric: i didnt say outweighs, just something u need to think about
me: how many of our 2nds have not panned out
i thought about it
still would take dmac in a second for our 2nd rd pick
Eric: and again this year is not like most years, this years 2nd is a first in most other years
me: still doesnt matter
Eric: does to me
12:07 PM me: what team do you work for?
easy!
guarantee you this
Eric: mike eruzione i play for... ...the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
me: i ask any host on sirius they make d mac for browns second rd pick trade
no brainer
12:08 PM Eric: probably they would
me: we still have 11 other picks
Eric: is florio on, he has no insight, he just posts news from other people
me: so you think long term brandon spikes for example would do more for us than mcnabb for say 5 years
lol
12:09 PM he plagiarizes
Eric: im saying you cant assume we have mcnabb in his present state for 5 years
me: of course hes probably a drooling vegetable but I think thats only common sense
12:10 PM eric, avg nfl career is 3 years
our second rounder might be gone anyways
Eric: for 1st round picks?
u think the avg 1st round pick spends 3 years in the nfl?
me: why are you back on 1st rounders
i said 2nd
i would not give up our 1st for mcnabb
12:11 PM Eric: haha because thats what the browns 2nd round pick is this year
me: ive consistently said that
Eric: this is a deep draft
me: no
Eric: yes
me: youre high
Eric: your low
me: overvaluing this draft
Eric: haha
me: wow
Eric: 38, you think that spikes in last years draft makes it to round 2?
me: no
Eric: thank you
me: he dropped this year bc he didnt play as well
plus everyone else is better
12:12 PM Eric: im saying that the guys who are going in the top 10 in round 2 are first round talents
not knocked down bc of character issues or anything
me: you could say that most years
Eric: but true 1st rounders
no you cant
so you're saying this years draft is not better and deeper than last years
12:13 PM me: ill tell you this, i would be stoked if we trade our 1st, 3rd and next years 1st for don mcnabb
oh my god
mike florio is an idiot
12:14 PM Eric: THERE YOU GO GIVING UP A 1 AGAIN!!!!!
me: wildcat? thats your best breakdown of seneca wallace [florio]?
im joking
Eric: Charles: ive consistently said that
ur nuts
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